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A Different Number Puzzle


This number puzzle is in .xls file format. It looks like HITORI, but it's not. You can download the file (name: sept09A.xls) at:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=171338&sid=dbfa1e1099d59aa7b0714fb0b192b6e4
There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each.
Each table contains of numbers, here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its rules, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24.
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else.
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have filled with numbers 1 to 350.
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should has a solution, shouldn't it...?
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly).

P.S:
1.This has been claimed as not a spam at:
http://mwillett.org/Debate/viewtopic.php?t=7424&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
2.The clues of this puzzle had been written at:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1192863624

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wustvn wrote:

This number puzzle is in .xls file format. It looks like HITORI, but it's not. You can download the file (name: sept09A.xls) at:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=171338&sid=dbfa1e1099d59aa7b0714fb0b192b6e4
There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each.
Each table contains of numbers, here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its rules, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24.
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else.
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have filled with numbers 1 to 350.
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should has a solution, shouldn't it...?
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly).

P.S:
1.This has been claimed as not a spam at:
http://mwillett.org/Debate/viewtopic.php?t=7424&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
2.The clues of this puzzle had been written at:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1192863624



Hi There wustvn,

                       You might want to check out www.Twelve.org it is the best puzzling site on the web. IMHO. Are you Maranatha ing? biggrin


Peace to All,
Cheryl


-- Edited by cwcherelle1 at 16:58, 2007-11-08

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cwcherelle1 wrote:
                       You might want to check out www.Twelve.org it is the best puzzling site on the web. IMHO. Are you Maranatha ing? biggrin

Hi too cwcherelle1,
 I checked it. Where's the forum?
Sorry, what's Maranatha ing supposed to mean?


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Hi,

It is a puzzle book, thats what this site was about, now it is just about dead, go to www.Tweleve.org. Or do a search on Maranatha puzzle book, buy the book, decode the encoded pages & you are on your way to learning things they don't teach in school.

This was the best $20.00 I ever spent, careful it is addictive.

Nice to get your reply, hope to see you on the 12 forum, I go by CWCHERYL1, which I won't.

I check in here to kind of direct new comers to a great quest.

Peace to All,
Cheryl

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I guarantee the answers of my puzzle can't be found in books. If you find it, tell me the tittle of the book and I'll buy it, though more than $20.00.
Thank's.

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I need to write again here what Ive been doing to this puzzle, though this had been written partly in other forum. I assume you guys have seen the file sept09A.xls.
Im not a puzzle mania, this puzzle just disturbs my mind. So to those whoever interested in this puzzle, I THINK the tables in my explanation below are the keys of this puzzle because:
1).Their shapes are quite different from other tables, where numbers 1 to 40 are only in certain rows. Especially in Table 45, numbers 1 to 40 are only in rows 1 & 10. (This can also approve that this is not a random case. Do you guys agree with that?). Meanwhile for other tables, numbers 1 to 40 spread almost in rows 1 to 10.
2).These tables have similar shapes each other.
E.g:
Table 45 has similar shape with Table 49 & Table 53.
Table 57 has similar shape with Table 61 & Table 65.
Here below I think tables that have similar shapes:
45,57,69,81,93,105,117,129,141,153,165,177,189,201,213,225,237,249,261,2 73.
with
49,61,73,85,97,109,121,133,145,157,169,181,193,205,217,229,241,253,265,2 77.
and
53,65,77,89,101,113,125,137,149,161,173,185,197,209,221,233,245,257,269, 281.

These tables themselves look similar.
E.g:
Table 49 looks similar with Table 169.
Table 73 looks similar with Table 193.
Here below I think tables look similar:
49,73,97,121,145,53,77,101,125,149,57,81,105,129,153,61,85,109,133,157,6 5,89,113,137,161,69,93,117,141,45
with
169,193,217,241,265,173,197,221,245,269,177,201,225,249,273,181,205,229, 253,277,185,209,233,257,281,189,213,237,261,165

Next time Ill try to explain more details about the gray areas (my approaching method) as shown in Table 1, sheet #1, file sept09A.xls.
Yeah, for its big sizes, this puzzle is really tough. Needs geniuses to crack it, at least above averages

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Howdy, this has been an excellent informative article! I definitely appreciate all of your wisdom. Thanks alot .

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